Friday, October 16, 2026

Notes: Frankl. Man's Search for Meaning (F.MSM)


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Man's Search for Meaning, An Introduction to Logotherapy by Viktor E. Frankl. English version copyrights: 1959, 1962, 1984, 1992, 2006.

The first English title was From Death-Camp to Existentialism: A Pyschiatrist's Path to a New Therapy

First version was published in 1946 in German under the title Ein Psycholog erlebt das Konzentrationslager (A Psychologist in the Concentration Camp)

It is of interest that Frankl's book is published by Beacon Press,
which is an arm of the Unitarian Universalist Association.

Other publishers have shared with Beacon in the publishing history, including:

Clarion (imprint of Simon & Schuster), Washington Square Press (paperback imprint of Simon & Schuster), Rider (subsidiary of Penguin Random House) for UK editions, Blackstone Publishing for unabridged audiobook and specialized print versions, Ebury Digital for contemporary digital versions.

Viktor Frankl was not a professional philosopher, but a psychiatrist whose Holocaust experience drove him to examine the will to live. But of course psychology and philosophy, now intimate siblings, were at one time indistinguishable.

Dr. Frankl's most important insight was that those who survive very harsh conditions are those who hang onto a meaningful hope of some kind. Those who give up hope are very unlikely to survive.

As a result, he developed a form of psychiatric treatment he called logotherapy, which was meant to alleviate depression and neurosis by encouraging the patient to see something really meaningful about his or her life and perhaps about life in general. That hope was then to be used as a therapeutic lodestar, making the therapy more likely to succeed.

Frankl sharply contrasted his method with the psychoanalytic method developed by fellow Austrian Sigmund Freud and his followers.

According to Gemini AI,
Logotherapy remains a vital, active branch of existential psychotherapy, often cited as the "Third Viennese School" alongside Freud’s psychoanalysis and Adler’s individual psychology.

Today, it is primarily used as a supplemental or preventative framework rather than a standalone clinical treatment for severe disorders.Current Clinical StatusTarget Areas: It is most frequently applied to existential crises, PTSD, depression, and anxiety, particularly where a "loss of meaning" is a primary factor.

Empirical Support: Modern reviews of over 130 studies show that logotherapy is effective in reducing suicide ideation, job burnout, and depression while increasing resilience.

Specialized Applications: It is widely used in palliative and cancer care to help patients navigate death anxiety and find purpose despite physical suffering. It is also gaining ground in supporting caregivers, immigrants, and those recovering from substance abuse.
Following are my notes on Man's Search for Meaning (2006 edition). They address small and large points important to me for sometimes obscure reasons. They may in future be used for some essay or essays, assuming I get around to writing them. They are for my personal purposes and should not be read as a summary of Frankl's book.

These notes are not necessarily straightforward transcriptions. I have felt at liberty to rewrite and supplement the originals as I go along.

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Ironically, Frankl's decision to honor the fourth commandment by staying in Austria after the Nazi takeover for the sake of his aging parents did not save his parents, and resulted in the loss of his beloved wife, all of whom perished in the death camps.

6-7. Frankl observes that the most vicious and amoral prisoners were the most likely to survive. [I have just finished reading Will Durant's account of the final period of the Thirty Years War, which reduced the population of Europe by half, and note that the cruel barbaric fate of survivors, and what happened to their civilized values, is highly reminiscent of Frankl's account of camp conditions.]

6a. "The best of us did not return."

10b and 11-a. Condemned prisoners may suffer from "a delusion of [last-minute] reprieve." Think of Ambrose Bierce story.

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20 <--> . What strikes me is the question: How could the Nazis have reached such a level of bestiality? One can give all sorts of correct proximate causes, and even a chain of proximate causes. But how do people become inured to such depravity, whether as witnesses or participants? The atrocities are very similar to what the Stalinists did to political undesirables. [I have yet to read Arendt's Totalitarianism thru. But I wonder about her view of the "banality of evil." Evil can appear bureaucratic and hence banal, but there seems to be something more going on in at least some hearts of darkness than banality. I will have to see how she copes with the concept of evil (and good) in general.]

One thing that is often overlooked about the Nazis is their populist socialism. In the aftermath of the First World War socialism had terrific mass appeal. Recall that in its early period, the Nazi party began life as the National Socialist Workers Party, in competition with the communists, who preached international socialism under worker directorates. The arrival of the Great Depression propelled the average German toward a socialist solution in 1933 just as it hurled America toward socialist methods when FDR took over in that same year.

In other words, the demand of the people for direct economic action in line with the charismatic rhetoric of both Hitler and Roosevelt, gave both regimes enormous, unprecedented popularity and power. But Roosevelt's targets were the industrial and financial magnates whom he blamed for obstructing reform. And tho he was a typical white racist of the period, he was not antisemitic, at least not in his choice of advisers.

So the rage of impoverished America was not channeled against a particular ethnic minority. Plainly, Germany followed the route of antisemitism, which had mass appeal. But Hitler and the Nazi true believers were not mere race baiters. They believed strongly in the "Aryan religion," a form of paganism concocted by people overly influenced by Nietzsche (who would have scoffed at such fantasies). The Nazis veiled this archaic religion from the people, portraying Hitler as a good Catholic.

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The thing to be noted is that when socialism is on the rise, many among the common people identify with the notion, "Now it's our turn" with the subtext, "You people who have it good will now pay dearly! Out of our way!"

Because true socialism always aims for one-party rule, the coordinating committees become very powerful, and thence the power-hungry gravitate to those committees.

Now since what we have is a cultural-social revolution, the rule of law is viewed as a means of oppression by the elite and by those who are forced to play scapegoat. Hence the committee and its supreme leader (one such almost always emerges) claim that their policies are for the best interests of the worker: ie., the committe's word has now become law. That's the modern road to tyranny. Totalitarianism occurs both from the ideology of tyranny (individual rights are overridden for the "collective good") and the overwhelming surveillance powers of the modern era.

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But why do such regimes sink to such depths of cruelty?

1. The ideology of collective good blinds many to the rights of minorities and individuals.

2. In politics, it is often the case that the most amoral rise to the higher levels. But in democracies, balances of power tend to check such excesses. In regimes headed toward tyranny, only the most cunning and ruthless excercise true power in the control committees. Because modern tyrannies require a de facto one-party structure, the bureaucratic apparatus falls into the hands of the party, which in turn is controlled by committee. Who controls that "central committee" most effectively is generally the most ruthless.

3. The leaders of such tyrannies spur their peoples to excesses because those leaders truly believe in their blood-spilling causes. Stalin believed in socialism. Hitler believed in his strange Aryan religion (which, in fact, was a spiritual throwback to the beliefs and behavior of the Aryan wild men of ancient Central Asia).

We may also observe that Stalin was a standard-issue atheist who had no moral compass other than the expansion of communism. Hitler was a de facto atheist. That is, he had no known regard for God or man. He did however know about the power of belief. He had found that if he practiced intensive belief before undertaking a major, daring act, he often succeeded against expectations. In a power-mad man, this was a bizarre spectacle for the world to see but it certainly impressed the German citizenry.

In addition, and importantly, the Communist and Nazi ideologies filled the gap left by what Nietzsche and others called nihilism: a world in which Christianity was under siege and Christian verities were dead. These socialist, man-based value systems replaced, to disastrous effect, the traditional value system of Christian Europe, flawed as that was.

Further, we must acknowledge that it is well known that demagoguery can convert civilized group psychology into primitive and violent mob psychology. From my vantage point, mob psychology represents a regression to a lower, herd-like, communal state of consciousness. One sees relatively harmless versions on dance floors, in rock concerts and in sport arenas.

The work of maintaining the defensive individual ego and self is halted for the relief of an alternate form of consciousness dating to an animalistic period of humanity. The individual becomes one with the crowd, and will be caught up in irrational actions much as a single steer will rush along madly with a stampeded herd. Its sense of self is merged into the singular consciousness.

Demagogs prey on this hunger for simple answers to life in a complex world. They use modern media to switch off the rather weak rational mind in many people, who are glad for the relief of submerging into the primitive mass mind.

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Such leaders are skilled at unleashing the sadistic impulses found in the "lower" mind, which comes to the fore when the cultivated mind is switched off for the sake of the exhilirating effect of mob consciousness.

Those who are able to resist such pressures require a character that goes beyond externalities. They must be able to examine themselves and to seek meaning in life (not only lip service).

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28b. After recounting the hellish existence of the working prisoners (those not deemed fit to work perished immediately on entry to the camps), Frankl brings up the situation of apathy, which was the main symptom of the second phase as a necessary mechanism of self-defense. We note that this is also a symptom seen among abused children in "normal" society. Sufficient emotional trauma engenders both apathy and the related passive aggressive response. In this light, we observe that Frankl's account shows that he was passive aggressive toward the guards.

77a. !!!! It was necessary to have a goal, a positive vision of the future, in order to have a faith to keep enduring.

"We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of our selves as those who were being questioned by life -- daily and hourly. Our answer must consist, not in talk or meditation, but in right action [italics mine]. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find a right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual."

79-b. !!! Frankl talked two men out of suicide by persuading them to see valid goals they had: one, the desire to see a living child waiting in a foreign land; the other, scientific work that still needed to be completed.

85-a; Footnote. The story of a merciful SS commander.

88. !!!! When liberation came, the joy and restoration of normalcy had to soak in slowly for most prisoners. One can see a similar effect among other groups, such as recovering alcoholics. Relation to the world on relatively normal terms can take a fair degree of time. That is, the word of liberation is often not grasped immediately, and may in fact unfold quite slowly.

99. Frankl terms the survival outlook in desperate and degraded situations as "the will to meaning" which he contrasts with Freud's "will to pleasure" and also with the "will to power" in the Adlerian sense. (Tho his logotherapy also contasts with the Nietzschean sense of will to power, even so the psychiatrist quotes the 19th Century German iconoclast with approval, closely paraphrasing Nietzsche's aphorism in Twilight of the Idols: "One who has a why to live for can bear almost any how. Man does not strive for happiness; only the English do." (Frankl did not include the witticism.)

105a. "I consider it a dangerous misconception of mental hygiene to assume that what man needs in the first place is equilibrium or, as it is called in biology, "homeostasis," i.e. a tensionless state. What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for a worthwhile goal, a freely chosen task. What he needs is not a discharge of tension at any cost but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him."

We must agree with Frankl that a source of the plague of mental depression afflicting moderns is rooted in the belief that worthy goals are unattainable or uninteresting.

105a. "If architects want to strengthen a decrepit arch, they increase the load which is laid on it, for thereby the parts are joined more firmly together." We note that it is very important to select the right point for boosting the load, both in architecture and in psychotherapy. A good example of what Frankl means can be found among recovering alcoholics, who gently but firmly encourage each other to face certain critical character traits.

107. By "existential vacuum," Frankl means what is colloquially known as the "hole in the soul."

-b. "Moreover, there are various masks and guises under which the existential vacuum appears. Sometimes the frustrated will to meaning is vicariously compensated for by a will to power, including the most primitive form of the will to power, the will to money..."

Another substitute is the will to pleasure [hedonism].

"We can observe in such cases that the sexual libido becomes rampant in the existential vacuum."

110 a. !!!! Logotherapy says the true meaning of life is to be discovered outside self.

"The more one forgoes himself -- by giving himself to a cause or to another person to love -- the more human he is and the more he actualizes himself."

This may sound like typical self-help book drivel, but it should be understand that Frankl saw many prisoners grotesquely stripped of their human virtues, their essential humanity, as contrasted with the minority who somehow clung to a shred of their humanity. He saw these things in stark relief, which is why his message remains important.

112. "In logotherapy, life is not interpreted as a mere epiphenomenon of sexual drives and instincts in the sense of a so-called sublimation. Life is as primary a phenomenon as sex."

Sex must be a vehicle for life.

124. Frankl relates his mental trick used to help some patients with phobias to break the "vicious circles" of negativity that bring on panic reactions that result in problematic responses. He terms the trick "paradoxical intention" whereby the patient is encouraged to intend to do exactly what she or he fears, keeping a light-hearted attitude.

Frankl tells of a young physician who would, when faced with a new social situation, begin to sweat copiously, much to his extreme embarrassment. Acting on Frankl's instruction, the next time such a situation confronted him, he said to himself: "I only sweated out a quart before. But now I'm going to sweat out 10 quarts!" Within a week the sweat reaction was gone.

Yet I caution that the mental trick used to relieve a person of such an affliction may not always be sufficient. One therapist told of a fellow cured of constant backache by such a method, only to commit suicide once his "cure" disclosed to him his fundamental depression. The backache had been masking that awareness. [I don't have a reference for this paragraph, but many such instances have been reported.]

130 a. Frankl faults psychoanalysis (Freud) as excessively deterministic. "Man is not fully conditioned and determined but rather determines himself whether he gives into conditions or stands up to them. In other words, man is ultimately self-determining. Man does not simply exist but always decides what his existence will be, what he will become in the next moment."

This belief is at the core of his psychotherapy. That is, "Take responsibility for your course of action!" Frankl arrived at this point of view apparently even before he survived four concentration camps, but his observations in those hell holes deepened his conviction.

Even so, as a philosopher he has only personal conviction to go on. No one has yet resolved the mind-body problem, or related problems. And I don't necessarily agree with him. I do agree that urging someone to face himself and seek meaningfulness is a good initial method. Beyond that, there is another factor not directly addressed in this book (tho he speaks of it in another book) and that is the subject of God, which I am not going to discuss in this set of notes.

130 b. Talks about free will from moment to moment.

Paragraphs a and b really reflect his personal creed, the sort of creed that many support but which is difficult if not impossible to prove in the so-called scientific sense. The issue for us is that Frankl is pointing to a greater reality, one based on love as fundamental to the cosmos insofar as humans are concerned.

My take: This fundamental of love, how is it to be viewed, other than as an unfoldment on behalf of man? What is this unfoldment other than an embracing salvation, i.e. a "universal christological principle"?

132 a,b.

"Tho your sins be as scarlet..."

See Perplexity.ai for background on mass murderer Dr. J (sent to the Eastern front for daring to become engaged to Hitler's sister).

This tale of redemption accords with the principle of which Frankl speaks: turning toward a meaningful existence.

(The claim that Dr J had been held at an isolation cell at Steinhof is said to be unlikely. Probably a PoW snared from German army ??)

133. "...a residue of freedom, no matter how limited it might be, is left to man in neurotic and even psychotic cases. Indeed, the innermost core of the patient's personality is not even touched by a psychosis." Here Frankl appears to be suggesting some sort of soul or spirit that is not affected by conditioning.

133. Psychiatric credo:

"An incurable psychotic patient may lose his usefulness but yet retain the dignity of a human being. This is my psychiatric credo. Without it I should not think it worthwhile to be a psychiatrist. For whose sake? Just for the sake of a damaged brain machine which cannot be repaired? If the patient were not definitely more, euthanasia would be justified."

The Nazis did indeed justify euthanasia on such grounds, as do modern liberal nations, with the trend creeping into U.S. states.

Without saying so, Frankl is referring to what is traditionally termed the "divine spark" in the human being.

Advocates a rehumanization of psychiatry and society, while rejecting strict physicalism.

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One must examine oneself to be sure one is not projecting one's own internal difficulties onto the external world. It is routine to find "the other" to blame rather than looking within and perhaps being forced to concede deficiencies. If people don't examine their lives, how are they to avoid grave mistakes in their advocacies?

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Re making life meaningful.

It should be noticed that a number of persons come up with incomplete modes of life that ultimately fail if those modes are not backed up by something even more spiritual. A most common modal shortfall occurs when a parent lives her or his life thru the child. Tho it is laudable to want the best for one's child, but so often the result is a parental ego trip that is less about the child and more about parental pride -- which the offspring is eventually forced to repudiate, or suffer debilitating emotional problems.

The problem here is that the parent is unwilling to give way to a higher power, tho the adult may well be blind to that wayward willfulness. The answer is to develop a God-oriented sense of humility, including toward one's children.

Another common life mode is social activism. Again, it is laudable to try to help correct social problems. But one must beware intellectual arrogance. How often, for example, do we see very wealthy people promoting on large scales causes which they are sure are correct, and yet one must wonder whether they really have the competence they think they do. A capacity to pile up riches does not necessarily imply sufficient spirital development to avoid doing more harm than good -- as has been shown many times over by the "law" of unintended consequences.

Now such persons are trying to add meaning to their lives beyond the display of riches. Some want really nothing more than to make a name for themselves outside the business world, to flatter their egos. Others may sincerely desire to make the world a better place. But, do they have sufficient spiritual insight to do so without mucking things up?

Of course one needn't be wealthy to make such a blunder. Activists and joiners who don't look within are liable to choose causes which resonate with some inner conflict or resentment.

The comments in this RLL section are my cautions on Frankl's thesis. I agree that many people lack a sense of meaning for their lives. But it is important to recognize the many vain efforts to gain that meaning on the cheap -- that is, without examining oneself as honestly as possible.

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Observe the difference in philosophical intensity between this man, Viktor Frankl, and those who got thru the war with relatively little deep suffering. I am thinking specifically of Martin Heidegger. Heidegger may well have been far more brilliant than Frankl in philosophical matters, but which had the character of the true helper and lover of humanity? It wasn't Heidegger.

And we have Karl Jaspers whom the Nazis oppressed, not only because his wife was Jewish, but because his book Nietzsche challenged the whole Nazi line on that philosopher. (Much has been written on Nietzsche; a good first read is the essay by Bertrand Russell in his History of Western Philosophy [1945].)

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Much of Jaspers' fighting spirit stems from his lifelong struggle against a disease that struck him in youth that could have taken him out at any time. For him, the purpose of philosophy was to get at the core of human existence (he was an existentialist before existentialism was cool). Jaspers, who began his career as a psychiatrist, surely would have agreed with Frankl's emphasis on finding meaning for life, tho I don't believe the two had any postwar communication. THIS OBSCURE PAPER may be of interest.

Both Frankl and Jaspers were concerned with the intense core of personal existence, as opposed to thinkers like Heidegger who are more interested in metaphysical abstractions. (That remark should not be taken as a putdown of the subject of metaphysics.)

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As a non-Christian, Frankl would not be expected to use a term such as universal christological principle (a principle, we may say, that clearly dates at least to Zoroaster or soon after his lifetime). Yet, as Frankl is at least willing to accept use of a personal God or higher power by patients, we see that his thinking tends in that direction, as does his insistence that self-denial for the love of another is of great importance in the healing process. That is, Frankl does not directly support such a notion, but from my vantage point his discussion implies such an aspect of the cosmos.

Notice that the very term "logotherapy" is evocative of the "logos" of John's gospel -- tho John was expanding on Heraclitus, who saw the logos as the eternal, unifying law governing all change and opposition, like a hidden harmony within the flux. "All become one" thru logos; i.e. divine reason implicit in the cosmos. [Heraclitus however does not see love as a fundamental.]

Notes. Russell. Why I Am Not A Christian (R.WNC)

Includes the essay What I Believe

What I Believe was published by Kegan Paul in 1925.

The Warbler Classics edition (2023) contains the following note:

"Why I am not a Christian" was a lecture delivered at Battersea Town Hall on March 6, 1927, under the auspices of the South London Branch of the National Secular Society and the American Association for the Advancement of Atheism, New York.
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Russell's rejection of the existence of spirits also is behind his acceptance of Mills' First Cause dismissal: What caused God? What came before God? We also see that both held a Newtonian-style view of linear time. I daresay Russell, tho a mathematician as well as a logician, was not terribly familiar with topologies that make time effectively non-linear -- tho in the 1920s he wrote a primer on Einstein's special theory of relativity.

It was his collaborator Whitehead who persuaded Russell to turn to a more holistic, monistic view of the universe on account of the revolutionary impact of the general theory of relativity. It is perhaps possible that, when he delievered the lecture, Russell's thinking hadn't quite got there. Tho he accepted Mills' argument some years before Einstein's 1905 breakthru, it is mildly surprising that that argument was not brushed off by 1927 as probably irrelevant. That is, plainly GR doesn't by itself prove God's existence. But Mills' argument falls as soon as one considers a Riemannian universe -- which is exactly what Einstein came up with.

A Spinoza-style pseudo-theist (G.O.D. = Great Out Doors), Einstein once termed linear time an illusion.

In a letter Einstein wrote,
Now he has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.
Further, we remark that Russell does not even bother much with Aristotle's prime mover argument, which doesn't actually fit Mills' argument. That is, Aristotle realized that the concept of time and of a sequence of events requires a timeless supervening force that could not be of this world. That's not a trivial argument. Logician Russell however would not admit anything beyond the universe of direct causes and effects, regardless of the logic favoring some sort of framework. How, for example, is general relativity to be viewed other than as asserting an almost metaphysical spacetime block?

Russell did not mention that the Catholic Church's acceptance of the first cause argument (1927) is based on Aristotle's logic, who should be credited as the first writer to make a strong intellectual case for the existence of a monotheistic God, which other Greeks interpreted as the First Principle, or Logos. Perhaps Heraclitus would have appealed more to Russell -- especially in his neutral monism phase -- than Aristotle.

Herewith are Perplexity notes on Aristotle:
Aristotle's metaphysics, often called "first philosophy," seeks to understand the fundamental nature of reality by studying "being qua being"—the essence and principles of existence itself. Key concepts include:

# The Four Causes:
Aristotle explains change and existence through four types of causes:

Material Cause: The substance something is made of.

Formal Cause: The structure or design of a thing.

Efficient Cause: The agent or process that brings something into being.

Final Cause: The purpose or goal for which something exists
# Substance and Being: Central to his metaphysics is the study of "substance" (ousia), which underpins all other categories like quality or quantity. Substance is primary in understanding what it means to exist

# The Unmoved Mover: Aristotle posits a "pure actuality" or "unmoved mover" as the ultimate cause of motion and change in the universe. This entity is the goal toward which all things strive, representing pure thought and eternal existence

# Principle of Non-Contradiction: A foundational axiom in his metaphysics states that contradictory statements cannot both be true simultaneously, ensuring logical coherence in understanding reality

Aristotle's metaphysics integrates causality, purpose, and logic, offering a framework to explore existence beyond the physical world.

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In Aristotle's philosophy, nature (physis) refers to the intrinsic principle of motion, change, and rest within natural beings. It is the essence or form that gives entities their ability to develop and function according to their own inherent tendencies, as opposed to external forces or human artifice. Key aspects of his conception include:

Nature as an Inner Principle: Nature is the internal source of movement and rest in natural substances, distinguishing them from artificial objects, which rely on external causes for change (e.g., a tree grows naturally, while a bed requires human craftsmanship)

Form Over Matter: While matter provides the potential for change, Aristotle emphasizes that nature primarily resides in the form or essence of a thing—its defining characteristics that guide its development and purpose

Contrast with Art and Convention: Natural things act according to their innate principles, whereas artifacts are shaped by external design. Similarly, Aristotle contrasts what is "by nature" with what is "by convention," highlighting universal principles over human customs

Connection to Motion and Change: Nature encompasses processes like generation, growth, and decay, which occur within living beings and natural elements due to their internal principles

Thus, for Aristotle, nature is both the cause and goal of a being's existence and activity, rooted in its essence and realized through its inherent potential.
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10. Re the argument for God's existence from design:

Russell now brings up the belief of scientists in the eventual extinction of life on earth as being a depressing scenario. Yet he doesn't -- and admittedly it would have been a difficult subject for a popular lecture, go into the issue of entropy, which is a very subtle subject and introduces many questions into the "consensus" scientific view. The subject certainly draws us back to the extreme mystery of time. The "law" of entropy makes comprehension of "Eistein time" very difficult, and vice versa. And the quantum interpretation puzzle makes time, history and entropy an impossible labyrinth. Now, it may be that Russell was not fully aware of such subtleties, but neither was he wholly ignorant of them. Hence, I must regard the basis of his point as being weak.

Still, Russell was attempting to answer the claim that without God, life is pointless. It appears he is adroitly sidestepping that argument with his one example of "godless" futility. That is, he has used a particular, with the easy rebuttal that no one really cares about the far future, to dismiss a far more general claim, which he has not properly analyzed at all.

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Russell seems unaware that atheism, in league with Darwinism, implies the destruction of the basis of morality. Yet, in 1948 in a radio debate with Copleston, he asserted that Moore, in Principia Ethica, had answered this objection. (I am reading Moore's book and already question Moore's attempt to relegate the concept of good to that of one of the qualia, such as yellow.) After all, Russell regards himself as highly moral, tho his morality was humanistic rather than Christian, leading him into all sorts of serial marital difficulties. Still, in his History of Western Philosophy (1945), he chastised Nietzsche for his amoral stance and advocated a world flowing with universal love.

Of course, some of Russell's critics charge that he did not properly understand Nietzsche, a brilliant man who did understand that the absence of God leaves a void in the basis of moral values ("nihilism"). Yet, it was Nietzsche's apparent solutions to this problem (never fully explicated), that drew the scorn of Russell and others.

10 -a. Now however we pick up the "moral arguments for the deity." Russell addresses the morality issue by attacking Kant's argument, a form of which is to say that there would be no right or wrong unless God exists (see above). In that case, for God there is no right or wrong. This whole area of thought is of course quite subtle and cannot be dismissed in a paragraph or two (even tho it is clear that the lecture format makes for tight constraints). At the least, Russell ought to have addressed why the knowledge of good and evil was so noxious for humanity.

11. There is much to say for Russell's humorous presentation -- tho he does not say it -- of the Gnostic argument that the devil made the world when God was not looking. Here one might mention that in Christian (prior to Gnosticism), the devil is the god of the fallen world, the ruler of "the air," whose power was taken from him on the cross. Tho the fallen world continues to exist, Christ's power continually works to defeat Satan on behalf of those who follow him or those whom he seeks out.

Such theological matters are important if Russell is to successfully challenge Christianity. The point here is that Russell does not examine very much that is essential to Christian thought. In fact, it appears he is anxious to skewer the cartoon version of Christianity that is so popular among those who profess Christ in name only.

John 3.3 quotes Jesus as telling Nicodemus: "Here is the truth. Unless a person is born from above [or again], he cannot see God's kingdom."

To Russell, God's kingdom is invisible. He could not sense God's presence directly nor detect God in the marvelous natural works about him. Unwittingly, this blind man was leading the blind into the pit, all the while having a compassionate regard for his fellow humans. This problem remains today for advocates and joiners of all stripes. This rather kindly gentleman epitomized the phrase: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

12. The argument for the remedying of injustice is Russell's title of the subsection on this page.

Russell's response: "If there is injustice in our area of the universe, why should we think that somewhere somewhen in the universe, there is a region where all is just?"

I do not know that he has fairly represented the argument that divine justice is needed to argue? that overall there is no injustice in God's universe (i.e., from some cosmic vantage point, God sees no injustice, tho from another he may).

Firstly, the nihilism that follows from atheistic Darwinism virtually guarantees that injustice is the lot of living creatures; in that respect injustice is a mere subjective human impression. The fallen world certainly reflects such social Darwinism, and always has, from well before Darwin.

Yet, Christian doctrine teaches that no weapon fashioned against Jesus, or his followers, will prosper (despite temporary setbacks). It can take long periods of discipleship before that point sinks in.

13. The character of Christ is the subsection on this page.

Most professing Christians do not take all Christ's teachings literally -- as in "turn the other cheek," which he says that Buddha and Lao Tzu taught before Christ. There is of course no requirement that every one of Christ's teachings be an original thought, tho Jesus didn't utter his sayings in isolation from his overall theological framework. And, we add, that a Christian would perhaps claim that such teachings came from the pre-incarnate Son of God.

In any case, among many New Testament Christians, the saying is taken very seriously. I would say Russell studiously ignores the difference between a true disciple and a nominal Christian.

Russell cites the teaching "Judge not, lest ye be judged," and contrasts that with the fact that Christians serve as judges in law courts. Jesus was talking about holding another person in disdain for specific behaviors, real or imagined, not about a fact-finding process. Compassion, even for very degraded persons, is Christ's way. You may not like them, but you can extend God's love toward them.

Also, born-again Christians are free to choose whether they should serve in secular courts. Certainly the Bible frowns on Christians suing each other. Why have persons without the Spirit decide what's right among those who have the Spirit? (I Cor. 6. 1-8) But even here, modern society creates technical situations whereby such suits are impossible to avoid.

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It is interesting that Russell contrasts his philosophical value system with that of Nietzsche, who espoused many values at odds with those of Christianity. Contrary to Nietzsche, Russell says in his History of Western Philosophy, Russell advocates universal love among humans. But absent a God, why bother? Even tho some Vedic teachers, such as Buddha, promoted this concept before Christ, one can perhaps discern the notion of a "universal christological principle" at work since the dawn of what Karl Jaspers dubbed "the Axial Age."

Russell in fact did realize that those who promoted holistic systems of the cosmos (monists) usually had a (possibly hidden) theist agenda. Similarly Nietzsche battled such systematizing probably because he saw that such systems pointed to a God, if not a "universal christological principle."

Tho Russell's History, 1945, appeared much later than Why, 1925, his other writings and conduct reflect that such a "Christian" view was ingrained deeply in him. And it is surely correct that he tried hard to do better than lip service on behalf of his personal set of morals, which is more than can be said for many nominal Christians. But again, a nominal Christian is probably not a Christian, in the New Testament sense of that term. The NT uses the term disciple, or student, meaning someone who is a doer of the word, and not a hearer only. The reverse holds for the nominal Christian.

By the time Why appeared, Russell had adopted the metaphysical concept of "neutral monism," by which he meant godless monism. Under that heading, the philosopher posited an all-embracing "stuff" of the cosmos that was both physical and mental, thus resolving Cartesian dualism while conceding that Descartes wasn't altogether wrong.

He could see that the physicalist conception of energy as the universal substance had weak points, remarking that tho a blind man could know all of physics, he would still not know everything, such as what the sighted meant by the color red.

Further, we might note that there seems to be no less ground for perceiving the unseeable love as the universal substance of the universe than to perceive another unseeable, energy, as the universal substance. Why shouldn't the cosmos be the overarching expression of love? Why is it "obvious" that it is all mindless quanta of energy?

And a point here is that if Russell could see that the physical and mental must merge (shades of, egad!, idealism ), it is curious that he didn't argue that, by extension, love really does make the world go around. Well, that isn't so curious. Had he conceded that point, Russell would have been near to conceding the necessity of God's existence. So tho he approached the "universal christological principle," he managed to deftly sidestep it.

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Then he cites the example of political parties appealing to "Christian" voters on the basis of stinginess. Of course, Russell is again confusing nominal Christian for born-again, New Testament Christian. Further, Christ's teachings on love and generosity are addressed to the individual. But even if we disregard that point, generosity should be applied with Holy Spirit wisdom, not simply because "one ought to be" generous.

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Russell calls the advice to the rich young businessman a maxim which isn't very popular among his Christian friends. A point of that story is that the youth was blinded by his material wealth. Had he given up that wealth, he would have been clear to follow Jesus and depend on him the way Paul, for example, did. Russell is correct that many Christians do not like that teaching. What? Give up everything for Christ!? But not many find the narrow road. When a person comes to Christ, "they" needs to be willing to surrender everything to him. When a new believer does that, Jesus takes responsibility for "their" future, no matter how long and hard the road may be. Perhaps "they" will find it hard to give up wealth and become a lowly missionary who may not even have institutional backing.

Dump your load, and follow me. Many don't at first, but some eventually heed that suggestion. And New Testament Christians may very well encounter situations where loss of material goods (or worse) is the price of following Jesus. Persecution is part of the discipline needed for the narrow path.

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Russell repeats the misunderstanding that tho Christ saw his second coming as occurring within a generation of his exaltation, 80 generations have passed and he still hasn't shown up.

Two points:

1. Christ's kingdom began on Pentecost a few weeks after his crucifixion, when he did indeed arrive with power and glory. That fulfillment of his prediction doesn't mean there isn't more to come.

2. "This generation" was certainly a divine pun. Those who had not been regenerated, or born again of the Spirit, were of "this generation" who were born of woman, of the earth.

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The moral problem of Christ's teaching

Christ believed in hell, in everlasting punishment. How could anyone be so unjust?

Russell refers to MT 23.33 in which Jesus rebukes certain "holier-than-thou" scribes and pharisees.

Like many Christians, Russell does not have a full grasp of Jesus' teachings in this respect. And the evidence for that is the different views on eternal damnation by different Christian denominations. Fortunately, Jesus himself -- unlike, perhaps, certain influential clergy -- puts far less emphasis on doctrinal differences than he does about the basics found in the Beatitudes and the Sermon on the Mount, as amplified thruout the New Testament.

In MT 23.33, Jesus is saying that these esteemed gentlemen were placing obstacles between ordinary people and God, while puffing themselves up. Also note that in the warning, Jesus uses the question form: If they change their attitudes, there is a way out, as Jesus in John 3 explains to the pharisee Nicodemus. I don't recall Jesus ever giving an exact definition of hell. That doesn't mean there is no extreme danger from the possibility of a fire that no created being can put out. But we must also take into account Rev. 21.4:
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.


And since hell is part and parcel with death, Russell the logician might say Christian belief is contradictory. Yet that is only true when we view time the way humans do. Whenever we Christians try to put biblical events and predictions on a railroad timetable, we err. Notice the two Greek words chronos and kairos. The former means clock time, which, from modern physics we know is at root remarkably strange; the latter means when the time is ripe, or when God deems that the various human and spiritual currents have reached the best point for fulfillment. In other words, to harp on the apparent injustice of a specific biblical idea is to fail to see the forest because too many trees are in the way.

Further, God may permit those who reject Jesus to commit spiritual suicide and be sent someplace where they are utterly cut off from the Savior. Christ's presence in this world makes it, by and large, tolerable. But where there is no Savior, conscious existence is intolerable, as he is not continuously consoling us, even if in a very low key. Every second would then become horrible, and short time lapses would seem unendurably long. On the other hand, the fun those in paradise are having is so great that they don't even feel time at all. Time flies when you're having fun.

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Förster-Nietzsche’s Einleitung to Der Wille zur Macht

English translation of Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche’s Einleitung to Der Wille zur Macht (1906 edition)

Already in the spring of 1883, when I was with my brother in Rome, he said that once Zarathustra was finished he wanted to write his theoretical-philosophical main prose work; and when in the autumn of 1884 in Zurich I returned to this conversation and asked him about it, he smiled mysteriously and indicated that the stay in the Engadin had been very fruitful in this regard. We already know from the introduction to the eighth volume how significant that summer was precisely for this main prose work. However, one must by no means assume that the fundamental thoughts of this work first arose at that time; no, they are already all contained in poetic form in Zarathustra, which is shown especially by the fact that plans and trains of thought from the end of 1882, that is, from the time before the origin of the first part of Zarathustra, have the greatest similarity with the intellectual content of The Will to Power.

But it goes without saying that the world of new thoughts in Zarathustra could not be exhausted and demanded a theoretical-philosophical prosaic presentation, while at the same time growing from year to year and becoming clearer. We therefore encounter in the plans of the summer of 1884 always the same problems as in Zarathustra and later in The Will to Power. All the writings from this time onward are explanations and presentations of those main thoughts, so that one can well say of The Will to Power the same thing that my brother writes to Jacob Burckhardt about Beyond Good and Evil: “that it says the same things as Zarathustra, but differently, very differently.”

That the author wanted to allow himself several years (he speaks of six and also of ten years) before thinking of the final working-out of this enormous work, and first only collected the precious building-stones and made the most comprehensive studies for it, is only too understandable. For the rest, it can be seen from the plans of the summer of 1884 that at that time he was not yet decided which of his main thoughts—whether the eternal recurrence or the revaluation of all previous highest values, whether the order of rank up to its summit, the overman, or the will to power as the principle of life, growth, and wanting-to-be-master—he wanted to give precedence to, to place at the center of this work. The insight, however, that the enormously complicated fabric of life can best be summarized in the will to power seems to have become clearer to him from year to year.

Here is probably the place where we may ask when this thought of the will to power as embodied will to life may first have appeared to the philosopher. Such questions are extraordinarily difficult to answer, since with my brother we always have to seek the germ of his main thoughts in a very distant time. As with a healthy, vigorous tree, it took many years before his thoughts gained their final form and emerged, with the exception of a single one: the eternal recurrence, which first arose for him in the summer of 1881 and came to presentation a year later. Perhaps I may be permitted here to bring a recollection that could give a pointer to the first origin of the thought of the will to power. In the autumn of 1885, before I went with my husband to Paraguay, my brother and I took wonderful walks in the surroundings of Naumburg in order to see once more the places of our childhood.

Thus we also once went over the heights between Naumburg and Pforta, which offer a magnificent, wide view, and precisely on that evening in especially beautiful lighting: the sky had a yellow-reddish coloring with deep-black clouds, which produced a remarkable color-mood in nature. My brother suddenly remarked how strongly this cloud-formation reminded him of an evening of that time (1870) when he had been a medical orderly on the battlefield (neutral Switzerland did not allow its university professor to go along as a soldier). After his training as an orderly in Erlangen he was sent by the local committee as a trusted person and leader of a medical column to the theater of war.

Larger sums were entrusted to him and a wealth of personal commissions given him, so that he had to make his way from lazaretto to lazaretto, from ambulance to ambulance, across battlefields, interrupting himself only to give help to the wounded and dying and to receive their last greetings.

What the compassionate heart of my brother suffered in that time cannot be described; for months afterward he still heard the moaning and the plaintive cries of the poor wounded. In the first years it was almost impossible for him to speak about it, and when Rohde once complained in my presence that he had heard so little of his friend’s experiences as a medical orderly, my brother broke out with the most painful expression into these words: “One cannot speak of that, it is impossible; one must try to banish these memories!” Also on that autumn day of which I just spoke he related only how one evening after such terrible wanderings, “the heart almost broken by pity,” he had come into a small town through which a military road led.

As he turns around a stone wall and goes a few steps forward, he suddenly hears a roaring and thundering, and a wonderful cavalry regiment, magnificent as the expression of the courage and high spirits of a people, flew past him like a luminous storm-cloud. The noise and thunder grows stronger, and there follows his beloved field artillery at the fastest tempo—ah, how it pained him not to be able to throw himself onto a horse but to have to remain inactive standing by this wall! Finally came the infantry at the double: the eyes flashed, the even tread sounded like mighty hammer-blows on the hard ground. And as this whole procession stormed past him, toward battle, perhaps toward death, so wonderful in its vital strength, in its fighting courage, so completely the expression of a race that wants to conquer, to rule, or to perish—“then I well felt, my sister,” my brother added, “that the strongest and highest will to life does not find its expression in a miserable struggle for existence, but as a will to fight, as a will to power and overpower!”

“But,” he continued after a while, while he looked out into the glowing evening sky, “I also felt how good it is that Wotan puts a hard heart into the breast of the commanders; how else could they bear the enormous responsibility of sending thousands to their death in order to bring their people and thereby themselves to dominion.”—Many, infinitely many, experienced something similar at that time, but the eyes of the philosopher see differently from other people and find new insights in experiences that lead others to opposite results.

When my brother later thought back on these events, how differently and how manifoldly the feeling of pity so praised by Schopenhauer must have appeared to him in comparison with that wonderful sight of the will to life, struggle, and power. Here he saw a state in which the human being feels his strongest drives, his good conscience, and his ideals as identical, and he saw this state not only in those carrying out that will to power, but above all also in the state of the commander himself. At that time the problem may first have arisen for him how frightfully and ruinously pity as weakness can work in the highest and most difficult moments that decide the destinies of peoples, and how right it therefore is that the great human being, the commander, is granted the right to sacrifice human beings in order to reach their highest goals. How moving the thought of the will to power first appears in the poetic form of Zarathustra; when reading the chapter “On Self-Overcoming” a faint recollection of the experiences just described always rises in me, especially at the following words:

“Wherever I found a living thing, there found I Will to Power; and even in the will of the servant found I the will to be master.

“That the weaker should serve the stronger, thereto persuades its will which would be master over still weaker ones: this delight alone it is unwilling to forgo.

“And as the lesser surrendereth itself to the greater that it may have delight and power over the least of all, so doth even the greatest surrender itself and staketh—for the sake of power—life itself.

“That is the surrender of the greatest, that it is hazard and danger, and a casting of dice for death.”

In the spring of 1885, after the completion of the fourth part of Zarathustra, my brother already seems, according to the notes, to have been resolved to make the will to power as the principle of life the center of his theoretical-philosophical main work. We find the title: “The Will to Power, an Interpretation of All Events.” In the winter of 1885/86, however, he first wanted to put together a small writing about it, for which we have a whole series of notes. He calls it: “The Will to Power. Attempt at a New World-Interpretation.” It is so understandable that he shuddered before the enormous task of presenting the will to power in nature, life, society, as will to truth, religion, art, morality, down into all consequences. Ah, how often he must have said to himself in despair: “an individual! ah only an individual! and this great forest and primeval forest!” Thus he repeatedly tries, in order to make the task somewhat easier and more surveyable for himself, to divide the great work into smaller, less extensive writings. He plans, for example, in the spring of 1886 to compose ten new writings and perhaps to publish them as new “Untimely Meditations.”

But during his stay in Leipzig, May–June 1886, while he was negotiating with the publisher about the printing of Beyond Good and Evil, he nevertheless came to the firm resolution, besides Beyond Good and Evil, which was to be a preparation for the great work (but in truth is a piece of it), to devote the next years entirely alone to the working-out and printing of The Will to Power. I may perhaps rightly express the conjecture that this stay of May–June 1886 in Leipzig robbed him of the last hope that it would be possible for him to find collaborators and comrades for this great work. This hope of collaborating friends, which was doubly seductive given the weakness of his eyes, and which kept arising again and again despite the great disappointments, had from youth on been the enchanting dream of his soul—a dream that was never to be fulfilled. He writes:

“The problems before which I am placed seem to me of such radical importance that almost every year I a few times fell into the illusion that the intellectual people to whom I made these problems visible would have to lay aside their own work in order for the time being to devote themselves entirely to my affairs. What then happened each time instead was in so comic and uncanny a way the opposite of what I had expected that I, old knower of men, learned to be ashamed of myself and had to relearn again and again in the beginner’s school that people take their habits a hundred thousand times more importantly than even—their advantage…”

All capable people, former friends and acquaintances, he found occupied with their own works; even Peter Gast, the only helping friend, nevertheless, according to my brother’s own wish, laid the main accent of his life and activity on his music. Other collaborators than the most capable ones he could not use. Thus the painful certainty seized him that he would never find a comrade for his most difficult works, that he would have to do everything, everything alone and go his hard way in absolute solitude.

During the corrections of Beyond Good and Evil, summer 1886, which he managed from Sils-Maria, he used every free hour to sift the already existing material for the main work planned in four volumes. He put together the whole plan of the enormous work, with a train of thought that encompasses the entire work and has essentially been retained with small shifts. (The content of the third book later passed into the fourth and an entirely new third book was inserted.) The plan of the summer of 1886 runs as follows:

“The Will to Power.

Attempt at a Revaluation of All Values.

In four books.

First Book: The Danger of Dangers (Presentation of nihilism as the necessary consequence of the previous valuations). Enormous forces are unleashed: but contradicting one another; the unleashed forces mutually destroying one another. In the democratic community, where everyone is a specialist, the For-What? For-Whom? is lacking; the condition in which all receive the thousandfold stunting of all individuals (into functions).

Second Book: Critique of Values (to show the disharmony between the ideal and its individual conditions (e.g., honesty among Christians, who are continually forced to lie).

Third Book: The Problem of the Lawgiver (History of solitude). The unleashed forces to be newly bound…

[The plan continues in the same vein; the text then moves into further discussion of later plans, the March 1887 outline that was finally used for the arrangement, the manuscript sources, editorial decisions, and the division of the material between volumes.]

The closing section of the Einleitung (Weimar, August 1906) ends with remarks on terminology, misunderstandings of words such as “herd,” “malice,” and “evil,” a note that more on Nietzsche’s relation to Christianity will appear in the introduction to the volume containing The Antichrist, and the practical necessity of splitting the work across two volumes.

GROK, despite several efforts, was unable to supply the remaining text, despite asserting that it had done so.

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German text of the Nachbericht (Afterword) from the 1906 canonical edition

Die erste Ausgabe des »Willens zur Macht« enthielt 483 Aphorismen, die vorliegende hat 570 Aphorismen mehr. Dieses Mehr stammt hauptsächlich aus dem Convolut W XIII, das mein Bruder im August 1888 ausdrücklich für sein großes Hauptprosawerk zusammengestellt hat, und welches leider für die erste Ausgabe des »Willens zur Macht« fast unbeachtet geblieben ist. Peter Gast schreibt darüber in der Vorrede zum XIV. Band der großen Gesammtausgabe: »Das Convolut XIII enthält 96 engbeschriebene Blätter meist aus dem Jahr 1887, zum Theil aber auch aus früheren Jahren bis zu 1883 zurück; diese Blätter sind von Nietzsche inhaltlich geordnet, im Pichi zu 5–10 Blättern zusammengelegt, in dieser Schichtung quer gebrochen und mit Capitelüberschriften aus dem Willen zur Macht versehen. Es unterliegt keinem Zweifel, daß diese Stücke nach Nietzsche’s Willen in dieses Werk mit hineinzunehmen sind…« So gilt also dieser Nachbericht nicht nur für den IX. sondern auch für den X. Band. Der Nachbericht zum X. Band wird nur die Weiterentwicklung einiger Theile des »Willens zur Macht« zu einem weniger umfangreichen Werke bringen, das sich nur nach dem Untertitel »Umwerthung aller Werthe« nennt. Die erste Ausgabe des Willens zur Macht erschien im Jahre 1901; die vorliegende neue Ausgabe ist vollständig neu bearbeitet und zusammengestellt: das erste und dritte Buch von Herrn Peter Gast, das zweite und vierte Buch von der Unterzeichneten. Alle Correcturen sind von Herrn Peter Gast mit dem Originaltext sorgfältig verglichen worden.

Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche.

Weimar, September 1906.

English translation

The first edition of The Will to Power contained 483 aphorisms; the present one has 570 more. This additional material comes mainly from the fascicle W XIII, which my brother expressly compiled in August 1888 for his great main prose work and which unfortunately remained almost unnoticed for the first edition of The Will to Power. Peter Gast writes about it in the preface to Volume XIV of the large collected edition: “Fascicle XIII contains 96 closely written leaves, mostly from the year 1887, but partly also from earlier years going back to 1883; these leaves were arranged by Nietzsche according to content, gathered in the portfolio into groups of 5–10 leaves, broken crosswise in this layering, and provided with chapter headings from The Will to Power. There is no doubt that these pieces are to be included in this work according to Nietzsche’s will…”

This afterword therefore applies not only to Volume IX but also to Volume X. The afterword to Volume X will only present the further development of certain parts of The Will to Power into a less extensive work that bears solely the subtitle “Revaluation of All Values.”

The first edition of The Will to Power appeared in the year 1901; the present new edition has been completely reworked and compiled: the first and third books by Mr. Peter Gast, the second and fourth books by the undersigned. All corrections have been carefully compared by Mr. Peter Gast with the original text.

Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche

Weimar, September 1906.

On Hegel's dialectical logic

Claude:

give a clear example of hegel's dialectical logic

Hegel’s own preferred example is the opening move of the Science of Logic: the dialectic of Being, Nothing, and Becoming.

1. Being (thesis). Start with the most abstract concept possible: pure Being, with no determinations at all — not “a” being, not being this or that, just Being as such, indeterminate immediacy.

2. Nothing (antithesis). But a concept with literally no content, no predicates, nothing to distinguish it from anything else, is indistinguishable from Nothing. Hegel’s claim isn’t that Being resembles Nothing — it’s that pure Being, thought through rigorously, collapses into Nothing. They have the same (lack of) content.

3. Becoming (synthesis). Yet Being and Nothing aren’t simply identical either — the thought “Being” and the thought “Nothing” are different acts of thinking. So the truth of this instability, where each category passes into the other and neither can be stably held apart, is Becoming: the unity that contains the vanishing of Being into Nothing and Nothing into Being as a single process.

The logical structure to notice: this isn’t “compromise” between two static positions. The antithesis emerges by pressing the thesis until it undermines itself from within (immanent critique), and the synthesis isn’t a blend but a new category operating at a higher level of determinacy — one that can explain why the first two broke down. Becoming can then itself become a new “thesis” subjected to the same treatment (it collapses into Determinate Being, and so on) — this is what drives the entire Logic forward as a sequence of self-generating categories rather than an externally applied schema.

A more concrete version of the same logical shape, if the abstraction above is unhelpful, is the master-slave dialectic in the Phenomenology: the master’s dependence on the slave’s recognition undermines the very autonomy the master sought, while the slave’s formative labor on the object gives the slave an independent self-relation the master lacks — each position destabilizes into its opposite through its own internal structure, not through external comparison.

so hegel's logic would approve the solution of russell's paradox by the NBG set theoretic distinction of classes and sets, such that memberless classes represent the synthesis. eventually, strange sets and classes lead to an absolute, as described in rucker's last logic book

This doesn’t hold up as stated, and the disanalogy is worth spelling out precisely because there’s a more interesting connection nearby that it’s obscuring.

What NBG actually does. The class/set distinction (Bernays, refining von Neumann) resolves Russell’s paradox via a “limitation of size” principle: a collection is a proper class exactly when it’s too large to be a member of anything else (the class of all sets, the class of all ordinals, the Russell class {x : x ∉ x} itself). This blocks the paradox because R = {x : x ∉ x} turns out to be a proper class, and “R ∈ R” is simply ill-formed — proper classes can’t be elements of anything, so the question never gets asked. Note also that proper classes aren’t “memberless” — the class of all sets has every set as a member. What they lack is the capacity to be a member. If that’s what you meant by “memberless,” fine, but it’s worth being precise since the two properties are opposite in direction.

Why this isn’t dialectical in Hegel’s sense. Aufhebung requires that the contradiction be worked through from within — the thesis, pursued to its full determination, generates its own negation as part of its content, and the synthesis preserves and elevates both moments rather than declaring one of them illegitimate. NBG does the opposite: it’s a stratification device, structurally a cousin of Russell’s own theory of types or Zermelo’s separation axiom. It doesn’t sublate the Russell class; it excludes it from the domain of things-that-can-be-members by fiat, motivated by the technical goal of consistency, not by any immanent unfolding of the concept “set.” Hegel’s Logic would have to show that “set” thought through to completion necessarily produces “proper class” as a moment it cannot do without — but historically the move ran the other way: the paradox was found first, empirically, by contradiction-hunting, and the class/set stratification was retrofitted to block it. That’s closer to Kantian antinomy-management than to genuine dialectical motion.

The real connection is elsewhere, and it cuts against your reading. Where Hegel is actually pertinent is the bad infinite (schlecht-unendlich). Every attempt to totalize the sets-so-far (V, then the class of all sets, then classes of classes, the cumulative hierarchy, inaccessible cardinals, and on) generates a new “outside” that itself demands totalizing — exactly the endless progression Hegel diagnoses as spurious infinity, infinity that never actually achieves itself because it stays perpetually opposed to a finite it hasn’t yet absorbed. This is precisely the structure Rucker is tracking with “strange sets” leading upward.

But then Cantor’s/Rucker’s Absolute Infinite is not a good match for Hegel’s Absolute — if anything they’re structurally opposed. Hegel’s Absolute is achieved, self-transparent, fully mediated: the “circle of circles” in which nothing remains external to the system. Cantor’s Absolute Infinite is defined by the opposite property — it is precisely what cannot be gathered into a determinate totality, an “inconsistent multiplicity” that recedes from every attempt at conceptual capture (which is why Cantor reaches for theological language, Ein Sof, rather than mathematical closure). One Absolute is total self-mediation; the other is defined by resistance to totalization. Sharing the word “Absolute” doesn’t get you a shared concept.

So the honest verdict: NBG’s fix is a formally elegant but dialectically inert patch, and the genuinely Hegelian-resonant phenomenon in this territory is the bad-infinite structure of the cumulative hierarchy — which would be a point against treating the ascent to strange sets/classes as culminating in anything Hegel would recognize as an Absolute, rather than a point in favor of it.

russell's paradox fulfills the hegelian criteria

Here you’re on much firmer ground than the NBG claim, and it’s worth separating the two clearly because they don’t stand or fall together.

The paradox itself, considered as a raw phenomenon, does have the right shape. Unrestricted comprehension — the principle that any predicate φ determines a set {x : φ(x)} — is the set-theoretic analogue of pure, maximally indeterminate Being: no restriction on content, total generality. Apply it reflexively (φ(x) = “x ∉ x”) and you get R, whose determinacy consists entirely in oscillating into its own negation: R ∈ R just in case R ∉ R. That’s not a static inconsistency sitting inertly beside the concept — it’s the concept collapsing into its opposite the moment it’s pushed to full self-application, structurally identical to how pure Being, examined, turns out to already be Nothing. So yes: taken as a raw phenomenon, this is a dialectical contradiction in Hegel’s technical sense, not a mere logical error to be embarrassed about.

But that’s only the antithesis moment, and Hegel’s criteria don’t stop there. The triadic movement requires that the contradiction be sublated — resolved into a third category that preserves what was true in both R ∈ R and R ∉ R rather than simply forbidding the question. This is exactly where the standard technical responses fail the test I raised last time: ZF’s separation axiom, NBG’s class/set stratification, and Russell’s own type theory all take the anti-dialectical option. They don’t carry the contradiction forward into a higher unity — they retreat one level and refuse to let the offending object be formed at all. That’s suppression of the contradiction, not Aufhebung.

There is one place where the actually Hegelian move has been taken seriously: Graham Priest’s dialetheism. In In Contradiction and Beyond the Limits of Thought, Priest treats “R ∈ R and R ∉ R” as both true — a genuine, stable contradiction rather than a defect to be engineered away — and explicitly names Hegel as a historical predecessor for the view that some contradictions are real and don’t need eliminating. More importantly for your point, Priest generalizes Russell’s paradox together with Cantor’s, Burali-Forti’s, and the Liar into a single recurring structure he calls the Inclosure Schema: any totality that is fully determinate generates, by that very determinacy, an object that is simultaneously inside and outside it. That schema functions as exactly the higher-order unity Hegel’s method demands — it doesn’t exclude the paradoxical object, it explains why every sufficiently complete totality must produce one. That’s sublation, not stratification.

So the accurate verdict: the paradox fulfills Hegel’s criteria for a genuine dialectical contradiction; classical axiomatic set theory does not complete the movement Hegel’s criteria then demand, because it chooses exclusion over sublation; and if anything in this territory has actually done the second half of Hegel’s job, it’s dialetheism’s Inclosure Schema, not NBG.

the new NBG concept of class is the third category

It’s the strongest version of the claim so far, but it still fails, and it fails on the specific point Hegel is most insistent about: the difference between Verstand and Vernunft.

Sublation vs. stratification is exactly the distinction Hegel uses against Kant, and NBG lands on Kant’s side of it. Kant’s response to the antinomies of pure reason is to say the contradictions only arise because reason oversteps into a domain (the unconditioned) where the categories of the understanding don’t properly apply — draw the boundary correctly and the contradiction dissolves. Hegel’s entire polemical target in the Logic is that this is an evasion: it doesn’t follow the contradiction through, it fences it off and calls the fence a solution. That is structurally identical to what NBG does. “Class” is a boundary — collections above a certain size can’t be members of anything — drawn precisely so that R never has to face the question “R ∈ R?” That’s Verstand’s characteristic move: divide, then declare the division beyond negotiation. If Hegel rejects Kant’s antinomy-management as insufficiently dialectical, the same reasoning rejects NBG’s class/set split for the identical reason.

Direction of motivation matters, and it runs backward here. Being/Nothing/Becoming is supposed to be discovered by thinking Being through with total rigor — the contradiction is not anticipated, it’s arrived at. NBG’s proper-class concept has the reverse genealogy: the paradoxes (Russell’s, Cantor’s, Burali-Forti’s) were already known, and “limitation of size” was devised specifically to prevent them. That’s engineering a category to avoid a known bad outcome, not a category generated by the internal unfolding of “set” itself. A synthesis that’s built backward from the contradiction it’s meant to prevent hasn’t earned the name.

The decisive test: does the new category retain the contradiction as living content, or does it switch off the conditions for the contradiction to occur? Becoming doesn’t make “Being passes into Nothing” inapplicable — Becoming is that oscillation, stabilized and made into positive content. A genuine third category has to still contain the tension it resolves, transformed but active. “Class” does the opposite: once R is typed as a proper class, the question “R ∈ R?” isn’t answered in a new, richer way — it’s rendered ill-formed, unaskable. The oscillation isn’t preserved at a higher pitch; it’s deleted. Compare this to what an actual sublation in this territory looks like: Priest’s Inclosure Schema (from Beyond the Limits of Thought) takes exactly the pattern you’d want — every totality complete enough to be fully determinate generates an object that is both inside and outside it — and keeps that object’s contradictory status as the positive content of the resulting structure, true on both sides at once. That’s a third category built from retaining the contradiction. “Class” is a third category built from making the contradiction impossible to state.

So the claim doesn’t hold: NBG’s class concept satisfies the letter of “new category introduced to handle a contradiction” but fails the substance of Aufhebung on all three tests that matter — method (Verstand, not Vernunft), direction of motivation (backward from known paradox, not forward from internal unfolding), and content (elimination of the tension rather than its preservation). The dialetheic Inclosure Schema is the thing in this vicinity that actually does what you’re describing.

so then hegel's dialectic logic fails for set theory paradoxes, tho Kant's doesn't

That’s an overcorrection, and it collapses two things that need to stay separate: whether Kant’s structural move achieves consistency, and whether it constitutes a philosophical vindication of Kant over Hegel. It doesn’t, on either count, and there’s a further problem: Kant’s solution doesn’t actually escape Hegelian critique — it just relocates the failure.

“Hegel fails” is too strong, because a working Hegelian-style formal system exists.

Paraconsistent/dialetheic set theory — Priest’s own program, and more concretely Zach Weber’s work (Transfinite Numbers in Paraconsistent Set Theory, Extensionality and Restriction in Naive Set Theory) — builds set theory on unrestricted (naive) comprehension, the same comprehension principle that generates Russell’s paradox, using a paraconsistent underlying logic where a contradiction doesn’t explode into triviality (ex falso doesn’t hold). In these systems, “R ∈ R and R ∉ R” is derivable and retained as true, not stratified away, and the theory still supports nontrivial mathematics — transfinite arithmetic, cardinality results, and so on. That is a genuine Aufhebung: the contradiction survives as positive content at a stable higher level rather than being fenced off. It’s real, it’s published, it’s actively developed. So the correct statement isn’t “Hegel’s logic fails for set-theoretic paradoxes” — it’s “the mainstream axiomatic tradition (ZF, NBG, type theory) is Kantian in structure, and a minority but formally serious dialetheic tradition is Hegelian in structure, and these are two live, competing foundational programs.” Mainstream adoption is a fact about mathematical practice (consistency and classical logic are strongly preferred, for good reasons), not a verdict on which philosophical logic is correct.

Kant’s success is also less clean than “succeeds” suggests, and the flaw is Hegelian. ZF and NBG don’t achieve a single, closed, final boundary the way Kant’s critique claims to achieve a settled demarcation between appearances and the unconditioned. Gödel’s incompleteness results mean any such system leaves statements undecided (the continuum hypothesis is the classic case), and the standard response is to posit larger boundaries — inaccessible cardinals, measurable cardinals, ever-stronger large cardinal axioms, reflection principles — each one drawn specifically to settle what the previous boundary couldn’t, and each one in turn incomplete with respect to further questions. That is not a single successful act of boundary-drawing; it’s an open-ended, non-terminating series of boundary-redrawings with no achieved totality — which is close to a textbook instance of Hegel’s bad infinite: a progression that keeps producing a new “beyond” it must incorporate and never actually closes into a whole. So the Kantian strategy purchases local, provisional consistency at exactly the price Hegel says such strategies always pay: it never reaches the completed self-transparency that would make it a genuine terminus rather than a moment in an unfinished regress.

The accurate formulation, then: mainstream set theory is Kantian in structure and it works pragmatically, but it doesn’t escape Hegelian critique — its need for an ever-expanding hierarchy of axiomatic boundaries is itself the bad-infinite symptom Hegel diagnoses as reason’s dissatisfaction with merely external limitation. And Hegel’s logic hasn’t failed for this domain in any general sense — it has a working formal instantiation, just a non-mainstream one, in dialetheic/paraconsistent set theory. What’s true is narrower than your formulation: classical, consistency-first foundations chose the Kantian route and it is formally successful by its own lights; that’s different from Hegel’s dialectic failing as logic, and different from Kant’s approach being complete on its own terms either.

most mathematicians would find your last answer suspect, as most accept ZFC, NBG, or a modified version of Russell and Whitehead's PM

The sociological fact is correct, and worth granting cleanly: ZFC, its conservative extension NBG, and typed systems descending from Principia are what essentially the entire working mathematical community uses, full stop. Paraconsistent/dialetheic set theory is a minority research program worked on by maybe a few dozen people worldwide. If your point is “you’re describing something exotic as if it had comparable standing to the mainstream,” that’s fair, and I should have flagged the disparity in maturity more explicitly rather than just calling it “formally serious.”

But notice what that fact does and doesn’t settle. It’s a sociological/pragmatic claim about which foundation mathematicians have converged on for doing mathematics — and the reasons for that convergence are good ones: classical logic’s inferential power, a century of accumulated results, and the fact that paraconsistent set theory genuinely lags behind in what it can reconstruct (more on that below). None of that is in dispute. What it doesn’t do is answer the separate question I was actually addressing: which of these programs, considered as formal structures, instantiates Hegelian sublation versus Kantian boundary-drawing. That’s a structural/philosophical classification, and majority uptake among mathematicians is not evidence about logical structure — a claim can be philosophically Kantian in form and also correct to prefer, for entirely non-philosophical reasons (it works, it’s productive, it doesn’t require rebuilding a century of results). Appealing to consensus to settle the structural question would be answering a different question than the one asked.

Where you’re right to press, though, is that I understated how contested and partial the paraconsistent recapture actually is, and this matters for how much weight the “existence proof” can bear. Weber’s program does prove genuine results — ordinal and Peano arithmetic, a Cantor’s-theorem-respecting theory of cardinals — inside naive comprehension with a paraconsistent logic. But: (1) paraconsistency alone isn’t even sufficient to keep naive comprehension safe, since Curry’s paradox (R = {x : x ∈ x → φ}) can trivialize the theory independently of negation-inconsistency, requiring further restrictions on the conditional, not just on negation; (2) there’s live technical dispute (Nicolai and others) over whether “classical recapture” strategies actually recover the full deductive strength of the classical theories they’re supposed to reproduce, or only a strictly weaker fragment; and (3) basic notions like computability and recursion don’t transfer over straightforwardly once contradictions are live, which is still being worked out. So the honest scaling-down is: dialetheic set theory is a real, technically serious existence proof that an Aufhebung-structured alternative to stratification is coherent and partially executable — not that it’s a mature, complete, competitive foundation for mathematics. That’s a weaker claim than I let stand, and it’s the one that survives scrutiny.

objectivity <--> subjectivity. what is the synthesis? This is one of the actual named triads in Hegel’s system, not something to be constructed by analogy — it’s the final third of the Doctrine of the Concept in the Science of Logic, and the answer has a name: the Idea (die Idee).

The structure, as Hegel gives it. The Subjective Logic runs: Subjectivity → Objectivity → Idea.

Subjectivity is the concept (Begriff) considered purely in itself — concept, judgment, syllogism — the “I” as pure self-relating activity, not yet given any external actuality. Taken in isolation this is one-sided: a subjectivity that stays merely subjective, that never actualizes itself in anything outside itself, is empty — this is the same diagnosis Hegel gives the “beautiful soul” in the Phenomenology, a will so purely inward it never risks itself in objective existence and therefore accomplishes nothing determinate.

Objectivity is the concept externalized into indifferent existence — mechanism (things externally related, pushed around by other things), chemism (things related through their determinate natures), and teleology (things ordered toward an end). Taken in isolation this looks like sheer given world, existing independently of any concept. But Hegel’s actual argument — and this is the pivot, not a restatement — is that objectivity, followed through its own internal development from mechanism to teleology, already turns out to be conceptual: purposiveness (teleology) can’t be stated without smuggling in exactly the structure — an end guiding a process — that subjectivity was supposed to have a monopoly on. So objectivity, examined rigorously, is not the subjectivity-free “outside” it presented itself as.

The Idea is what results: not a compromise, but the discovery that neither pole was ever purely itself. Hegel defines it directly: the Idea is “the absolute unity of the Concept and objectivity” — a subjectivity that has fully actualized itself as objective, and an objectivity recognized as already conceptually structured through and through. This is important to get right against the common misreading of “synthesis” as splitting the difference between two intact opposites. Hegel’s synthesis is never that. It’s the result of showing that subjectivity-in-isolation and objectivity-in-isolation were both already inadequate abstractions from something that was never actually split — thought that has fully worked itself out, and being that has fully worked itself out, turn out to be the same self-determining process seen from two sides.

The Idea then has its own internal unfolding, worth having in view since it’s not a static endpoint: Life (the immediate unity — an organism where subjectivity directly informs and organizes a body, no gap yet between purpose and matter) → Cognition, which splits into the theoretical Idea of the True (subject conforms its concepts to given objectivity — knowing) and the practical Idea of the Good (subject reshapes objectivity to conform to its own purposes — willing and acting) → the Absolute Idea, where this last opposition between theoretical and practical also collapses: thought recognizes that its own method of self-development just is its content, that there is no gap left between the activity of thinking and what is thought. That’s the terminus of the Logic — subjectivity and objectivity are only fully sublated when their own opposition, and not just their content, has been shown to be self-generated and self-dissolving.

One disambiguation worth flagging, since the same pairing shows up elsewhere in the system with a different answer: if you mean it at the level of Geist rather than the Logic — Subjective Spirit (individual consciousness, soul, psychology) versus Objective Spirit (law, morality, ethical institutions) — the synthesis there is Absolute Spirit: art, religion, and philosophy, where a subject’s activity (making, worshiping, thinking) and objective, publicly shared content (the artwork, the doctrine, the system) are no longer opposed because the content just is the subject’s own self-understanding rendered external and shareable. Within Objective Spirit alone, there’s a smaller-scale version of the same move in the Philosophy of Right: subjective moral will (Moralität) and objective institutional right (abstract right) are synthesized in Sittlichkeit, ultimately the state — institutions that are objective and yet are nothing but concrete freedom’s own self-actualization, not an alien constraint on it.

If you had a specific register in mind — logical, psychological, political — say which and I’ll go deeper on that track specifically, since the Logic’s answer (the Idea) and the Encyclopedia’s answer (Absolute Spirit / the state) are structurally parallel but not interchangeable.

so these triads are ordered triples, meaning the parts do not obey strict implication

Correct on the “ordered” part, but the “strict implication” claim needs more care than a flat no — and there’s a prior question worth raising about whether “triad” is even the right formal object here at all.

On order first. The ordering isn’t uniform across all three positions, and it’s worth being precise about where the asymmetry actually sits. Being and Nothing are mutually convertible — Hegel’s claim is symmetric: Being passes into Nothing and Nothing passes into Being, each is the truth of the other, neither has priority. The asymmetry only enters at the third step: Becoming is not simply “whichever of Being/Nothing you started with” reversed — it’s a genuinely new determination that can’t be decomposed back into the pair without loss (Being and Nothing survive only as moments within Becoming, not as free-standing terms you can extract and reconstitute). So if you’re modeling this as an ordered triple ⟨thesis, antithesis, synthesis⟩, the first two coordinates are order-symmetric with each other and only the transition to the third coordinate is properly directional/irreversible. That’s a real structural point, and it means “ordered triple” undersells the relation between coordinates 1 and 2 while correctly capturing the relation to coordinate 3.

On strict implication: right conclusion, but the reason matters more than the verdict. Strict implication (Lewis’s fix to material implication) is still a classical, truth-functional-plus-modality relation: p strictly implies q iff it’s impossible for p to be true and q false, evaluated over a fixed domain of propositions with stable content and stable truth-values. Hegel’s transitions fail this not merely because they’re “loose” but because the premise doesn’t meet the precondition for strict implication to even apply: the content of “Being” is not held fixed across the transition to “Nothing.” Hegel’s explicit target — his running polemic against Verstand and formal logic throughout the Doctrine of Being and the Introduction — is exactly the assumption that terms retain a stable, self-identical meaning while inference rules operate on them externally. Dialectical necessity works by determinate negation: the negation that emerges isn’t the empty, indeterminate “not-p” of classical negation, but a specific, content-bearing result of showing why the very content of p was already inadequate to sustain the determinacy it claimed. That’s not extractive (deriving what’s already implicit via a truth-preserving rule) but productive (generating a determination not contained in the premises under any classical rule of inference) — which is precisely why Hegel insists formal logic, on its own resources, is “empty”: it can rearrange given content but can’t generate new content the way he claims the dialectic does.

A prior complication, given what you already know from Mueller. You’ve read Mueller against Stace on exactly this point — worth foregrounding here because it bears directly on your question. “Thesis-antithesis-synthesis” as a fixed three-term schema is not Hegel’s own vocabulary; it’s the popularization descending from Chalybäus and later Stace, which Mueller’s “Hegel Legend” essay attacks precisely because Hegel speaks of Momente (moments) of a single self-differentiating movement, not three discrete propositions plugged into an inference relation. If that’s right, “ordered triple” may be the wrong formal object from the start — an n-tuple presupposes separable elements that jointly satisfy some relation, whereas moments are only distinguishable retrospectively, in exposition, from within a movement that is, at the time of its actual unfolding, not yet decomposed into separate terms at all. So there are two candidate diagnoses on the table, not one: (a) the relation between the terms is real but non-classical (a different, dialectical necessity — determinate negation — rather than strict implication), which is the reading Priest’s paraconsistent formalization tries to make rigorous; or (b) the whole triadic packaging is an artifact of exposition and Hegel scholars, and there is no fixed formal relation of any kind connecting freestanding “terms” to be modeled, classical or otherwise, because the thing being modeled was never three items to begin with. These pull in different directions — (a) says formalize it differently; (b) says don’t expect a formalization of terms-in-relation to be the right kind of project at all — and which one you take seriously changes what “not strict implication” is doing as an answer.

<{a,b}, c>, not <,c>

The notation is the right fix for the problem I flagged, but it buys clarity on one issue by making a silent commitment on the other, larger issue — and it still can’t do the job you’d actually need it to do.

What it gets right. <{a,b}, c> correctly refuses to encode an ordering between a and b while still marking c as structurally distinguished — that’s exactly the asymmetry in the text: Hegel states the Being/Nothing relation as fully reciprocal (“Being passes over into Nothing, and Nothing into Being” — stated as a two-way claim), and he even remarks, later in the Doctrine of Being, that the Logic could equally well have started from Nothing instead of Being, since Nothing taken with the same immediacy is just as indeterminate — so the choice of starting term really is conventional, not privileged. {a,b} models that correctly. <,c> would smuggle back in exactly the ordering commitment (“first a, then b”) that the text explicitly denies.

What it can’t do. A set-theoretic pair is a purely extensional object — it records that {a,b} and c co-occur as a packaged structure, but it has no resources to represent why c results, which was the entire content of my last answer: the relation is determinate negation, not strict implication, precisely because it’s productive rather than extractive. Nothing about <{a,b}, c> distinguishes “c is generated by the internal collapse of a and b into each other” from “c is arbitrarily paired with {a,b}.” To get that you’d need a distinguished relation or operator connecting the coordinates — some f({a,b}) = c — and the moment you write that down, you’re forced to specify its properties, which is exactly the substantive unresolved question, not something the choice of bracket-nesting settles. Tuple structure can encode symmetry/asymmetry among positions; it cannot encode necessitation, generativity, or content-change across a transition. Those need a modal or inferential apparatus layered on top, and what that apparatus looks like (classical function? Priest’s paraconsistent consequence relation? something else entirely) is the actual open question your notation currently leaves silent.

A cost you may not have intended to pay. Packaging a, b, c as elements of a set/tuple at all presupposes they’re separable, well-defined items that exist prior to and independent of the relation holding them together — which is precisely interpretation (a) from my last message, not (b). Mueller’s objection (via Stace) was that “moments” (Momente) are not freestanding terms available for collection into a set prior to the movement — they’re only distinguishable in retrospect, as an artifact of exposition, from within a process that at the time of its actual unfolding hasn’t yet separated into countable items. If Mueller is right, there is no a, b, or c to put into any bracket structure, ordered or not — the demand for a tuple already begs the question against that reading by presupposing the individuation it would need to justify.

Does it even generalize? Being/Nothing is the cleanest case for {a,b} because Hegel states their interchangeability directly. The later triads I mentioned are looser fits: Subjectivity and Objectivity aren’t given as a single reciprocal claim the way Being/Nothing are — the Logic argues through them sequentially (Subjectivity shown one-sided, then, separately, Objectivity shown to already be conceptual), which is closer to two independent one-sided collapses than to a single symmetric pair given all at once. So <{a,b}, c> is a good regional fix for the specific case that motivated it and a looser, more stipulated fit elsewhere in the system.

a <--> b.. --> ..c

The ..-->.. for the c-transition is a genuine improvement — using visibly nonstandard notation to mark “this is not classical implication, and I’m not claiming to know what it is” is honest, and it’s the right response to what I flagged last turn. But the <--> for a/b needs the same scrutiny, and it doesn’t survive it, plus there’s a structural option your diagram forecloses that’s arguably closer to what Hegel actually says.

<--> flattens exactly the thing that was supposed to be preserved. A biconditional is a static, truth-functional relation: a and b have matching truth-value, full stop, no direction, no activity. But “Being passes into Nothing, and Nothing passes into Being” is not a claim that two propositions happen to co-vary — it’s a claim that two movements occur, each with its own direction: Being, examined, turns into Nothing (one transition), and Nothing, examined, turns into Being (a second, independent transition). What makes it reciprocal is that both transitions happen, not that some single symmetric connective holds between fixed endpoints. Collapsing that into <--> loses the very feature — the movement itself — that’s supposed to constitute Becoming. The more accurate diagram is two directed arrows sharing endpoints: a --> b and b --> a, not one bidirectional edge.

And that restructuring changes where c belongs. If Becoming just is that pair of opposed transitions, stabilized and grasped as a unity, then c isn’t downstream of {a,b} via some further, separate arrow at all — c is the two arrows themselves, reified into a new object. Structurally that’s closer to c := (a-->b, b-->a) — Becoming as the name for the cyclical structure taken as a whole — than to {a,b} ..-->.. c as three items with a transition connecting a pair to a third. Your notation, by keeping a, b, c as three coordinate slots with an arrow between the first two packaged together and the third, still presupposes c is reached from {a,b} rather than c being nothing but {a,b}’s own activity made explicit. That’s a real fork: is the third moment a new destination, or is it the first two moments’ own process, looked at differently? Hegel’s language (“the truth of [Being and Nothing] is... the movement of the immediate vanishing of the one into the other: Becoming”) reads more like the second option — Becoming isn’t arrived at, it’s what Being-passing-into-Nothing-and-back already was, redescribed as a unity rather than as two separate vanishings.

The dotted arrow is honest but still inert. Marking the a/b-to-c step as non-classical correctly refuses to overclaim, but it’s a label for an unsolved problem, not a solution to it — it still can’t distinguish “c genuinely results from {a,b}’s instability” from “c is stipulated.” That’s fine as an acknowledgment of where things stand, but it’s worth being clear that no notation does that work for you; only an actual account of determinate negation would, and that’s substantive philosophical content, not a diagram choice.

Mueller’s objection is still sitting underneath, untouched. Every version of this notation — yours, mine, tuples, arrows — treats a, b, c as pre-existing nodes that some relation (however marked) then connects. That’s still squarely interpretation (a). If Mueller/Stace’s reading is right that Being and Nothing are only individuated in retrospect, from within a completed movement, then the very starting point — draw two nodes, label them a and b — has already decided the question against Mueller by treating them as available for labeling before the movement that (on his reading) is what makes them determinate objects in the first place.

no. i was using dot notation instead of parens, with double dots meant to avoid confusion for a single dot used for the logical product. hence i meant merely (a <--> b) --> c

Fair correction on the notation — I over-read the double dots as a deliberate hedge when you meant plain grouping. But swapping in the ordinary reading doesn’t rescue the formula; it makes both problems from the last two turns sharper, not milder.

The biconditional problem is unchanged by the bracket style. Whether you write <--> or (a <-> b), it’s still a single static, symmetric, truth-functional relation between two fixed propositions — and my objection two turns ago wasn’t about notation, it was about what a biconditional is: a claim that a and b match in truth-value, with no representation of the two independent directed transitions (Being collapsing into Nothing; Nothing collapsing into Being) that Hegel actually describes as constituting Becoming. (a <-> b) still asserts co-variance, not activity. Parenthesizing it doesn’t add the missing directionality back in.

And “-->” as ordinary implication reintroduces exactly the charge Hegel levels against formal logic — now in a stronger, more damaging form. If --> is material implication, (a<->b) --> c is true whenever c is true regardless of a and b, or whenever a<->b is false regardless of c — the connective is satisfied by cases with zero relation to dialectical content. That’s not a weak formalization of determinate negation, it’s compatible with there being no relation at all between the premise and c. If --> is meant as strict implication instead (necessity of the material conditional), it’s better-behaved but reintroduces the objection from two turns ago at full strength: strict implication requires a and b’s content to be fixed while the inference is evaluated, which is precisely what Hegel denies — the whole point of the transition to Becoming is that “Being” and “Nothing,” pursued to full determinacy, don’t retain stable enough content to serve as fixed inputs to any truth-preserving rule. Either reading of --> reproduces the “formal logic is empty” complaint; the classical reading trivializes it, the modal reading just restates the problem I already raised rather than solving it.

So the honest state of the formalization attempt, three turns in: every version — tuples, arrows, biconditionals, material or strict implication — keeps hitting the same wall, because the wall isn’t about which classical apparatus you pick, it’s that Hegel’s transitions aren’t the kind of thing any relation between fixed, pre-individuated propositional contents can represent. That’s not a defect in your notational choices; it’s the actual content of the claim that dialectical necessity is sui generis — not reducible to, and not a special case of, any relation in the classical propositional toolkit, symmetric or asymmetric, material or modal. The only formalization on the table that doesn’t just relabel this gap is Priest’s paraconsistent one, and it works by changing the logic itself (allowing true contradictions, non-classical negation) rather than by rearranging how classical connectives are bracketed — which is the level at which a real formalization would have to intervene.

i know. you mean a <--> ~a. --> c

This is the right move, and it’s a real improvement — but it’s worth being precise about exactly what it buys you, because it buys two different things, one a genuine advance and one a substantive interpretive cost you may not want to pay.

What it gets right. Treating Nothing as ~a rather than as an independent atom b formalizes something textually accurate: Nothing isn’t correlated with Being by some external relation, it is Being’s own negation — same content, opposite sign, which is exactly why Hegel can say their content is identical while their “determination” differs. That’s a strictly better formal move than my {a,b} treatment, which let Nothing float as an unrelated proposition merely happening to co-vary with Being.

What it does in classical logic: nothing useful, and this is actually informative. a <-> ~a is a classical contradiction — unsatisfiable under any valuation. Embed that in (a<->~a) --> c with --> as material implication and the antecedent is always false, so the whole formula is vacuously true for any c whatsoever — true, and tells you nothing. This isn’t a failure of your formalization; it’s your formalization correctly demonstrating, from the inside, exactly the claim I’ve been making for three turns: classical logic cannot represent this transition without either exploding or going vacuous. You’ve now shown that formally rather than me asserting it.

Where it actually lives: Priest’s LP. In the Logic of Paradox, a proposition can take the value Both (true-and-false), and under that assignment, a <-> ~a is satisfiable — non-vacuously, because when a is Both, ~a is also Both, and Both matches Both. This is, formally, close to the cleanest statement available of what a dialetheic reading of Being/Nothing claims: a (Being) is a dialetheia, and a <-> ~a holding is not a contradiction to be eliminated but the actual, stable, glutty content of the concept at that stage. That’s real progress — you’ve located the one non-classical setting where the left-hand side of your formula is a coherent object rather than dead on arrival. Note, though, that --> still needs re-specifying once you’re inside LP: LP’s material conditional (defined via ¬ and ∨) notoriously fails to validate modus ponens for glutty inputs, which is precisely why Priest and others reach for distinct conditional connectives (relevant/paraconsistent conditionals, e.g. via Routley-Meyer semantics) rather than the LP material conditional when they need inference to actually transmit something to c. So the c-transition is still open, but now it’s open in the right place — a known, worked-on problem in paraconsistent proof theory, not a hole in your notation.

The cost, and it’s a real one. Formalizing Nothing as ~a at all commits you to reading Nothing as the negation of Being — a determinate operation applied to a determinate content. But Hegel’s actual staging is arguably more radical than that, and this is the thing worth checking against the texts you know well: at the opening of the Doctrine of Being, Being and Nothing are each introduced as separately and equally immediate — Nothing isn’t derived by negating Being, it’s arrived at on its own terms, “pure nothing... simple equality with itself.” If Nothing were already the negation of Being, the concept of negation (a determinate operation with determinate scope) would have to be already available at the very point where the Logic is supposed to have nothing available yet except sheer indeterminate immediacy — negation as an operation is arguably itself a result achieved only through the Being-Nothing-Becoming movement, not a tool already on hand to state it. On that reading, ~ — classical or paraconsistent, doesn’t matter which — imports more logical machinery into the starting point than the text licenses at that stage of the Logic, even though it’s exegetically well-motivated by the later remark that their content is “the same.” Whether that’s decisive against your formalization or just a cost you’re willing to pay is a real interpretive fork, and it’s one where reasonable readers of the text split, not something notation can adjudicate.

curious that vacuous truth corresponds to a dialectic triad's claim of truth

It’s curious, but worth being precise about why it’s curious, because the reason cuts against reading it as any kind of vindication.

What’s actually happening: it’s not a coincidence, it’s ex falso quodlibet. (a<->~a) is a contradiction — unsatisfiable in classical logic. And “a contradiction classically implies anything” isn’t a special quirk of this formula; it’s just the principle of explosion (ECQ) showing up, the same principle that makes any classical theory containing a contradiction trivial (prove everything). So what you noticed is the correct, general classical behavior at contradictions, not something specific to Being/Nothing. That’s actually the reason it’s not a coincidence — Hegel’s transition really does involve a genuine contradiction (that’s the whole thrust of treating Nothing as ~a with a<->~a holding), so classical logic’s one universal response to contradiction — everything follows — was bound to fire here too.

But that’s exactly the disease, not a cure. Three turns ago the whole reason classical logic was rejected for this project was that it can’t represent genuinely contradictory content without collapsing into triviality. Vacuous truth is that collapse, just witnessed directly: (a<->~a) --> c being true for literally any c whatsoever isn’t evidence that c is the right conclusion, it’s evidence that the antecedent has stopped discriminating between conclusions at all. Hegel’s claim is maximally selective — Becoming, specifically, and nothing else, is what results from this determinate contradiction. Vacuous truth is maximally unselective — it would validate (a<->~a) --> "the moon is made of cheese" with exactly the same formal certainty. Those are opposite properties dressed up in the same surface phenomenon: both look like “c follows unconditionally,” but one is unconditional because of overdetermination (the content specifically forces this outcome) and the other is unconditional because of underdetermination (the premises are broken, so nothing is being tracked). If anything, this is a clean example of why “the formula comes out true” is a bad proxy for “the formula says something” — precisely the complaint against material implication that motivates relevance and paraconsistent logics in the first place.

And it evaporates exactly where the formalization is supposed to actually live. Move to Priest’s LP, where a is a glut (Both true and false) rather than classically inconsistent: a<->~a is now satisfiable, not vacuously false-always. That means the antecedent is no longer trivially unsatisfiable, ECQ doesn’t fire, and (a<->~a) --> c is no longer automatically true for every c — you’d actually have to do work, with a real conditional connective, to show Becoming specifically follows rather than something else. So the “curious correspondence” is a purely classical artifact that disappears the moment you take the dialectical content seriously enough to formalize it in the logic that can actually hold it without exploding. That’s worth sitting with: the appearance of validation was itself a symptom of using the wrong logic, and it’s gone precisely in the logic we already established is the right one to be using.

well, within the triad, ANYTHING is true

Two very different claims are being run together here, and they turn out to point in opposite directions rather than converging.

Sense one: “anything is true” via ECQ. This is exactly last turn’s diagnosis — a contradictory antecedent classically implies anything. But that reading is specifically what paraconsistent logic exists to block. LP is defined by rejecting ECQ: a and ~a both being true does not license deriving arbitrary c. That’s not an incidental feature of Priest’s system, it’s the entire motivation for building it — to have a formal setting where you can hold a<->~a without the collapse into “anything follows.” So if “within the triad” means within the logic we established actually houses this content (LP, or a relevant/paraconsistent conditional), the claim is false, not trivially validated: paraconsistency’s whole point is that not everything is true once you’re inside it.

Sense two: Hegel’s holism, “das Wahre ist das Ganze.” If instead you mean something more Hegelian — every determination eventually finds its place and its moment of truth within the completed System — that’s a real doctrine, but it’s structurally the inverse of trivialism, not a version of it. Trivialism is indiscriminate: every proposition is asserted, flatly, with no ordering or qualification, because the logic has stopped tracking distinctions. Hegel’s doctrine is maximally discriminating: his explicit claim (Encyclopedia Logic, the doctrine that “the finite is untrue,” das Endliche ist unwahr) is that every partial, isolated determination is false taken on its own — not true. What a finite category gets is not unconditional truth but a specific, located, and only partial validity, contingent on exactly how it’s aufgehoben into what follows. Nothing gets truth for free; each moment has to earn its place through the specific work of being shown both necessary and insufficient. “The whole is the true” describes the terminus of an immense amount of differentiation, not the absence of it — it’s closer to “only the fully-worked-out totality is true, and everything short of it is false-but-necessary” than to “everything is true.”

So the apparent overlap — both look like “everything, without restriction” — is actually surface resemblance between opposite mechanisms: explosion produces indiscriminate assertion by the logic breaking (losing the ability to discriminate at all), while Hegel’s holism produces comprehensive inclusion by the system working, differentiating every category from every other and assigning each its exact, earned, partial share of truth. Conflating them would mean mistaking the failure mode of classical logic under contradiction for the success condition of Hegel’s system — and the paraconsistent formalization we landed on last turn is specifically the apparatus built to keep those two apart, which is the strongest evidence that they’re not secretly the same thing.

who is priest

Graham Priest (b. 1948) — British/Australian logician and philosopher, best known as the leading defender of dialetheism: the view that some contradictions are literally true, formalized through paraconsistent logics like LP (the Logic of Paradox) that block explosion (ECQ) so a true contradiction doesn’t trivialize the whole system. His main technical/philosophical case is that the Liar, Russell’s paradox, and structurally similar antinomies all fit a single recurring pattern he calls the Inclosure Schema — the one I invoked several turns back as the actual sublation Hegel’s method would demand, where NBG’s class/set stratification only excludes.

He’s trained in mathematical logic (PhD, LSE; thesis on type theory, under John Lane Bell) but has worked across metaphysics, philosophy of mathematics, Buddhist philosophy, and the history of philosophy — including explicit engagement with Hegel as a historical dialetheist. Career-wise: long stretches in Australia (Western Australia, Queensland, Melbourne), St Andrews, and since 2009 Distinguished Professor at the CUNY Graduate Center — as of this past summer he’s reportedly moving to Tohoku University in Japan this October, so that may be shifting.

His central relevant books, for direct citation: In Contradiction (1987/2006) lays out dialetheism and LP; Beyond the Limits of Thought (1995/2002) develops the Inclosure Schema across the paradoxes; An Introduction to Non-Classical Logic is the standard textbook covering the technical apparatus.


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